‘Andor’ Actors Reveal Why Star Wars Wanted This ‘Gritty, Human’ Disney Plus Sequence


The first three episodes of Andor landed on Disney Plus on Wednesday, kicking off the brand new Star Wars present in feature-length model. The Rogue One prequel collection reveals the murky backstory of the morally questionable Cassian Andor (Diego Luna), who’ll go on to grow to be a hero of the Insurgent Alliance because it faces down the Galactic Empire.

Since this present is ready 5 years earlier than Rogue One (itself a prequel to unique Star Wars film, A New Hope), Cassian is not fairly the liberty fighter we all know he’ll grow to be. The Insurgent Alliance hasn’t shaped but both. It is only a scattered bunch of insurgent cells making feeble efforts towards Emperor Palpatine’s totalitarian regime.

Andor is not your typical Star Wars present. As a substitute of the standard lightsaber-wielding house wizards, assaults on planet-killing battle stations, or armored Child Yoda dads, it focuses on the darkish actuality of residing below the Empire and the risks of standing as much as oppression. These are the cruel corners of the universe that collection creator and author Tony Gilroy revels in, having beforehand written the primary 4 Bourne motion pictures and co-written Rogue One.

Rejoining Luna in a galaxy far, far-off is Genevieve O’Reilly as future Insurgent Alliance chief Mon Mothma (a task she beforehand performed in Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One and CGI animated collection Rebels). Coming to the Star Wars universe for the primary time are Adria Arjona as Cassian’s loyal good friend Bix Caleen, Fiona Shaw as his adoptive mom Maarva, and Kyle Soller as Syril Karn, an uptight safety inspector decided to seek out our hero.

I bought the possibility to have enjoyable chats with O’Reilly, Arjona, Shaw and Soller over Zoom about exploring a brand new aspect of Star Wars; the place their characters slot in; and — most significantly of all — what tools they reckon their motion figures ought to include.

Here is a transcript of our conversations, edited collectively for readability.

Q. That is essentially the most grounded Star Wars effort we have ever seen. Why do you suppose it was essential to take that method with this present?
Soller: Rogue One had parts of ’70s thriller, motion movie, but in addition was actually gritty and human. In one of many first scenes, Cassian shoots certainly one of his pals — for the sake of the insurrection, however he makes quite a lot of questionable selections.

Constructing off that tremendous movie, you’ll be able to invent and examine these different characters who’re sitting in that very same grey space, and are all in a technique of genesis — of changing into who they suppose they could need to be, and determining what they consider in. 

Syril Karn gazes a hologram of Cassian Andor in Andor

Syril Karn is set to convey Cassian to justice.


We additionally see sides of the Empire and the insurrection that we have not seen earlier than. The Empire that you just meet in A New Hope will not be the one that you just meet in Andor. It is fats and lazy, as Cassian says, and also you get an inside view into the sort of company construction system — like a office atmosphere. 

After which on the insurrection aspect, you see this planet that’s simply full of individuals making an attempt to outlive. And it is actual domesticity — gritty and human. There is a concentrate on human lives as they battle to outlive. Each certainly one of these characters is sitting inside their very own little mini insurrection in their very own life. 

It was so refreshing to learn: It is a sociopolitical drama; it is a spy thriller; it is a home drama; it is nearly a office comedy. It is also Star Wars, informed over 12 episodes that may obtain this degree of element. 

O’Reilly: I believe once you put somebody like Tony Gilroy as the top creator and author of a collection, it’ll be inquisitive about investigating the individuals, relationships and textures — issues quite than in broad strokes. It is all the time going to be grittier.

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Shaw: Having written Rogue One, [in Andor] Tony Gilroy dared to excavate the emotional relationships between individuals. Individuals of all ages, backgrounds, upbringings and international locations can relate to the household. 

And he isn’t making an attempt to attract conclusions in regards to the characters. As a substitute we have individuals in all of the mess of human feelings, values, gradual journeys, immoral journeys.

Arjona: It is about individuals at a cusp of a revolution. Tony actually did a superb job of showcasing and mirroring our actual world. There is not any good and dangerous, it is all murky. This present — each character — lives in that grey space. With the intention to perceive somebody’s morality, you must perceive that individual’s intimacy as effectively. It is extremely human, extremely grounded and darker. It isn’t so happy-go-lucky.

Bix Caleen looks concerned as she climbs a ladder in Andor

Bix Caleen has a posh relationship with Cassian.


Adria, the place does Bix match into this darker nook of the galaxy?
Arjona: After we first meet Bix, she’s very steady. She has a enterprise, she’s profitable, and folks respect her. However she has this relationship with Cassian —  second you see, you are like, “Oh, these two have been by way of it collectively, and so they belief one another.” However there’s additionally this rigidity.

Does she assist her good friend? Does she not assist their good friend? “That is somebody I like who’s a ache within the ass typically, however I am gonna assist him.” She understands the second in historical past that she is in and makes an enormous determination. When individuals are on the cusp of a revolution, there’s this camaraderie. 

Fiona, there is a level the place you warn Bee-Two, the droid, that you’re going to be “so cross” with him if he is powered down in one of many rooms. The best way you ship that line is great.
Shaw: I believe the droid is like having a canine that pees on the ground. It has to maintain charging up, its battery-bladder is not nearly as good because it was.

Cassian Andor crouches beside cute red droid B2EMO in Andor.

B2EMO is an enthralling droid, however getting a bit creaky.


An outdated droid is subsequent to an outdated lady; meet Maarva very late in her life. It was additionally a pleasure for me to play any individual a lot older, after which any individual youthful, than myself [when the show flashes back to The Clone Wars era]. I used to be neither age, I reached out for the Maarva who’s sick, outdated and has a really outdated droid, and the youthful one with a younger droid.

You touched on the truth that we meet Marva in two time intervals. How does that match this grounded tackle Star Wars?
Shaw: It performs into the story of how Maarva and Cassian are mom and son. He has a really completely different accent. We get to grasp that.


Maarva lived a lifetime of journey however has slowed down by the point we meet her within the present.


We additionally see the sort of life Maarva had [in the flashback scenes]. She’s any individual with a really broad thoughts who has traveled everywhere in the universe with their husband, gathering bits of steel. She meets his boy and takes him house — he should have been an enormous change for her life, as a lot as she is for his. He could have saved her, a bit.

Genevieve, that is Mon Mothma’s largest look thus far. Was that thrilling for you?
O’Reilly: Sure. She is a lady who I’ve bought to play earlier than — she’s normally surrounded by rebels; a frontrunner who sends individuals off on missions. How did she get there? What sacrifices did she need to make? As a result of we begin Andor in a really completely different place than Rogue One, we’ve time to discover what these prices are.


Mon Mothma is enjoying a harmful political recreation.


After we meet her in Andor, she is not surrounded by rebels, she is steeped inside the Empire, she is a lonely feminine voice of opposition towards Palpatine within the Imperial Senate. It is a harmful place to be in.

She has labored for a few years, as a senator making an attempt to impact change from inside that Imperial system. She’s now at some extent the place she has to step exterior it — she has to danger all of it for what she believes.

We all know by way of Star Wars lore that she’s been a senator from the age of 16. What are the realities of a life like that? What are the customs? What are the rituals of the planet Chandrila that has an adolescent inside such a construction, what number of selections did she actually have? And is that this the primary time she’s prepared to danger making a real alternative?

Mon Mothma already has some motion figures based mostly on her previous appearances; they each include batons. To the actors new to Star Wars — provided that your character is an extension of your character and Star Wars has all the time been related to motion figures — what equipment do you suppose your determine ought to include? 
Soller: Nicely, Syril’s bought to have a comb, and possibly bought to have a journey steamer as effectively. One thing to shine his footwear as effectively, a type of little fast wipes. It must be a Star Wars dopp package, his private accoutrement to ensure that he is pressed and firmly put collectively.

Arjona: Within the first scene, I put on this vest, my work apron. And I simply suppose it is essentially the most badass factor. If I have been to have an motion determine, I actually need that outfit. And I need the piece of equipment that I click on off when Cassian is available in. I need to be holding that and carrying all my leather-based.

Shaw: Oh, God. That is too arduous. I believe in all probability only a jumpsuit of some type [laughs].

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